Why do so many celebs have tranny kids?

I just confirmed that Liev Schreiber has a transgender daughter.

His son’s name was originally Samuel Kai (going by Kai). You ever see photos of him with his kids and one of his kids seems to look like a girl?

Well, I found his kids’ IG profiles (they’re private), but Kai’s pronouns are She/Her.

Who made this decision? Liev? Naomi?

And doesn’t Tobey Maguire have a tranny kid? And Charlize? And Jamie Lee? And Kathleen Beller and Thomas Dolby?

I have to assume that at least some of them are faking it for publicity.

"Come on, Susie, just wear the suit to the premiere and we'll get you a playstation and iphone that haven't hit the market yet! Won't your friends at school be jealous? Come on, just get the little tux on, mommy and daddy need some publicity and trans is trendy..."

I don't think it's just celebs. I think wealthy, middle-to-upper class white people produce the majority of trans children. For one thing, they have the luxury of the time to think about this shit.

It's just the latest trend. When it passes something else will take over.

Celebrities are especially prone to narcissistic, attention-seeking tendencies, and I guess that extends to their litter.

It's important that children have support in the family home, not teased, ridiculed or humiliated, once the child feels alienated and treated differently, the real problems begin, ask any psychologist. I just feel like it's wonderful that these kids have attentive parents who reach out, listen and support them, not reject them. All kids need support, physical, emotional, mental. So much information out there, so the acceptance level is much higher nowadays, even among celebrities. Celebrities are real people too, you have to do what's best for the child. :-)

R2 is correct. I know two families in NYC who have trans teens. One is disgustingly wealthy. The other is comfortable, upper middle class.

I actually read a book called Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters.

In it, she says MTF has been around a while, and usually affected little boys know from an early age they are transgender even if they bring it up later in life or never.

For FTM, this used to occur in low numbers, but now studies are finding that adolescent girls that are on the outskirts socially will adopt this identity, similarly to the anorexia craze of the 80s. Then they become popular with their new, trendy identity and many of them take mostly irreversible steps to transition.

Very interesting book.

It's a trend among highly neurotic, wealthy and upper middle class white families.

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Emma Bunton of the Spice Girls has a son who likes to dress up like Baby Spice.

[quote]I don't think it's just celebs. I think wealthy, middle-to-upper class white people produce the majority of trans children. For one thing, they have the luxury of the time to think about this shit.

Agreed; my sister lives in an upwardly mobile suburb of DC & knows several people with trans kids. I live in a more low/middle income rural area & know no one with a trans kid (or one that admits to it anyway). If you're wealthy, you have time & energy for this kind of stuff. If you're struggling to get by & just want your kid to make it the world, you just tell them to look normal when you're at school and I don't care what you do at home.

How do you explain all the poor black trannies then who don’t come from money?

Trans kids is the new Romanian babies!

Poor children. Playing dress-up can be called a phase. But teaching a child that there is no such thing as biological reality and that feelings can never be wrong so reality has to be discarded instead leaves a mark and probably changes you for life. If you think coming out was hard, imagine how awful it must to realize your parents are essentially cult members who groomed you, and to "come out" to your overdoing parents to tell them you're really not trans. And we're not even talking medication and surgery yet. Poor children.

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Don't forget Warren Beatty and Annette Bening! And Cher!

That's a fair point R14 and after seeing some of the videos of beatdowns to trannies that happened in TX, it's downright dangerous to be trans in certain communities

Dwayne Wade

Charlize Theron

Aiden Gilles

Don Cheadle

Jean Smart

All have some flavor of trans child. The first two have sons who think they’re girls, the latter three have daughters who think they’re male. Smart’s kid is especially sad since she’s both adopted and her father just died. She wasn’t trans til after her dad passed away.

It's the easiest way to get more attention than their attenion-whore parents.

It's the Special Snowflake phenomenon.

Jamie Lee Curtis Sade

A lot of the kids transitioning are adopted. It does seem much more common among celebs.

[quote] How do you explain all the poor black trannies then who don’t come from money?

r14 Homophobia.

Most trannies (both kids and adults) I see come from these two types of families/cultures: upper middle class with lots of time (and money) to indulge in this fancy (or righteous) mental illness & plain old homophobia (POC & whites from the religious and/or non-privileged backgrounds)

Donal Logue. Kid went missing several years ago.

OP Easy to answer:

Celebrity Land is On-Trend Land; if it gets you PR it's good.

Most celebrities have fucked up kids, and going Tranny is now seen as an easy way to solve other emotional issues. Lots of teens wish they were someone else. It's common as dirt at an age when identity is front and centre for everyone.

They have the money.

Their parents live in an environment that won't face-palm in horror - at least not publicly.

It beats getting off your easy life and applying for medical or law school.

If left alone, most of these kids will probably turn out like Shiloh Jolie-Pitt, who simply liked to wear boys' clothes (or what are stereotyped as boys' clothes) when younger and is now, as a young teenage girl, enjoying dressing up in a more feminine style while still being tomboyish in her daily wear.

Unfortunately, kids with Munchausen mothers like Naomi Watts and Cynthia Nixon are going to have a tougher time escaping their mother's fucked up ideas.

Jamie Lee Curtis' kid looks like a typical incel/early-onset AGP/fetishistic crossdresser.

I may throw on a little black skirt for cocktails 🍹 but no way in hell am I giving up my stick shift hard drive

Oh, and as lots of kids hate their parents, especially in Celebrity Land, this is the new I Was Really Adopted out.

R29

Bootsy (now going by ‘Colby’) Jones, daughter of Stereophonics’ vocalist Kelly Jones, is hurtling down an FTM path.

Kelly interestingly admitted to press that he ‘struggled’ with it at first, and thought it was ‘just a phase’ (it was, Kelly), but then he sadly caved to pressure and allowed his daughter to seek therapy at age 15. He now says he’s come to a place of ‘acceptance and support’.

It’s too bad Kelly is now a homophobic, because he is and always was gorgeous and a brilliant singer/frontman. His daughter deserves better, maybe a father who would have encouraged her to make peace with her essential female-ness and with her GNC presentation.

Breaks my Wenglish heart, this does.

Agree with R2. The families have enough wealth to insulate the kids so they can live in a trans bubble.

I head Cher but I think that's just a rumor.

[quote]Most celebrities have fucked up kids, and going Tranny is now seen as an easy way to solve other emotional issues. Lots of teens wish they were someone else. It's common as dirt at an age when identity is front and centre for everyone.

Add the belief in easy solutions to every emotional or mental problem, through indiscriminate medication and even surgery. Just like tons of kids have been overmedicated with Ritalin.

[quote]Donal Logue. Kid went missing several years ago.

I think that kid had serious mental health problems, and fell in the trans rabbit hole on Tumblr.

Child abuse, plain and simple. For kids to dress like they want to, for whatever phase they're in, is one thing. To actually start to dope them with hormones and reinforce whatever they're into at the time by encouraging physical alterations is just wrong. Imagine giving an adolescents drugs that are opposite of their natural physical real body, and what that would do. Doing that as an adult would be just as bad, but as an adult they would better understand what that would be like. I just think its wrong.

It's simple, Rose. The parents are attention whores and they've found out a way for their kids to not only become attention whores for themselves, but also add more attention to them and their non traditional families!

Be a rainbow! Embrace the you! Who cares if you're regretful and suicidal by the time you're 25.

Gender confusion is real. The only solution is too humbling accept your gender. And bravely challenge/confront whatever limitations you think that presents. Anything else is delusion and madness. And just because this moment in time is cosigning this insanity, doesn't mean it will always do so. Truth and authenticity will prevail.

Gender confusion is real. The only solution is too humbly accept your gender. And bravely challenge/confront whatever limitations you think that presents. Anything else is delusion and madness. And just because this moment in time is cosigning this insanity, doesn't mean it will always do so. Truth and authenticity will prevail.

[quote] the belief in easy solutions to every emotional or mental problem, through indiscriminate medication and even surgery

Unsurprising that celeb parents pumped full of fillers and sculpted into alien-like forms by cosmetic Mengeles wouldn’t worry about subjecting their kids to the knife & pill. Regular everyday parents from modest obscure origins and incomes want to keep their children away from surgery or meds, ideally.

Mind you, microplastics in the air and water and food looks to finish us all off sooner than later, if another world war or climate change doesn’t get us first in a few decades, so really what does it matter in the grand scheme. Smoke, shoot up hormones, cut yourself up, bareback, who gives a fuck (just don’t let a kid who can’t consent do the same).

Apparently money can be a motive, OP.

Dwyane Wade's Ex-Wife Fears He's 'Pressuring' Zaya Into Name And Gender Change For Financial Gain

Siovaughn Funches-Wade alleged in a recent filing that Dwyane Wade is "positioned to profit from the minor child’s name and gender change" of their 15-year-old daughter Zaya

In Funches-Wade's recent filing, the 41-year-old claims that Wade is "positioned to profit from the minor child's name and gender change with various companies through contacts and marketing opportunities including but not limited to deals with Disney."

"I have concerns that [Dwyane] may be pressuring our child to move forward with the name and gender change in order to capitalize on the financial opportunities that he has received from companies," she alleged.

So many? You only named handful, some of whom aren't even real celebrities

"I think wealthy, middle-to-upper class white people produce the majority of trans children."

That's not true at all

"If you think coming out was hard, imagine how awful it must to realize your parents are essentially cult members who groomed you, and to "come out" to your overdoing parents to tell them you're really not trans. And we're not even talking medication and surgery yet."

No one is "groomed" to be trans, except in your GOP fantasies

:"Zaya" is a clear example of grooming. Dad had no use for a gay son. Certainly there would be no corporate interested in a teen gay son.

Why? Trans started as a fantasy of HOMOPHOBIC RICH WHITE MEN like James Morris and whatever the Richards dude was named. It didn't become acceptable for non-rich people until prison inmates and females to males got involved. Ironically females to males are the only generally successful group. Celebrities are rich and stupid and believe in stereotypes from the 1950s. So of course their children are steered into this nonsense.

I have more respect for trannies than non-binaries. At least if you feel like a man or a woman, you feel like something that actually exists. There is no such thing as a "they/them."

Sade has a trans son.

My neighbor has a trans granddaughter. He’s a former Congressman.

R15, you're not wrong.

It's the latest adopt from Africa craze. Normally we can adore your attention whoredom but sadly when you drag your child into it, that becomes harder to ignore.

[quote] I think that kid had serious mental health problems, and fell in the trans rabbit hole on Tumblr.

That’s all of them.

Yesterday I sat in a bar. A guy told me his husband is non-binary. Refers to it as "husband", but whatever.

He then tells me his husband is referred to as they/their/them. I scoff and say you can't just assign a plural to a single person. He says you can; in other words by wilfully ignoring what we've been taught in elementary school.

I just let it go, but hearing someone say "My husband will fly in next week, they is on the first plane out on Monday morning".. ugh

^^^ They is crazy, R53. They needs a net.

It’s cool …remember when they all had twins? Now transgender kids are all the rage…..

Because, when your parents are famous and get so much attention, many people become desperate to be seen and become the center of attention.

Of course, there's also the issue that parents like that are also narcissists to some extent and use their kids to focus attention on themselves.

One of Danial Day-Lewis’s sons with Rebecca Miller is some flavor of trans, the younger son.

Oh, the younger one. They always feel neglected and starving for attention.

Elon Musk has a trans daughter who disowned him. I think he has at least 10 children so he probably didn't even notice.

I love how they turned the vagina into a ballsack. No wonder all these celeb parents want that for their offspring in the future. It looks great.

Because its a fashion statement like having the latest bag. Liberal white women are loony as fuck.

Dwyane Wade seems to be a pretty progressive, live and let live kind of guy. I don't think he'd care if he had a gay son. I'm on the the mom's side though. Kid is only 14, let's pump the brakes.

Wade admits he struggled with Zion being gay when his son came out at around age 11. Zion was always very effeminate.

They Tran’z them, you might say the kids are Trans’d. It’s a verb.

They were raised to be attention whores, by predominately mentally ill parents so what can you expect?

[quote]And just because this moment in time is cosigning this insanity, doesn't mean it will always do so. Truth and authenticity will prevail.

That is why the Democrats are on the wrong side of history with this issue.

It will be another blemish on their record -- just like wanting to maintain slavery, founding the Ku Klux Klan, and establishing segregation laws.

By next decade, they will be regretting with a vengeance having supported/promoted the transgender agenda.

I definitely think there is a link between transitioning and homophobia. Not all, but I’ve noticed some MTF who sound very effeminate and come from not so supportive homes have transitioned. I don’t understand it at all, but look at Iran. They force people to transition so they won’t be gay. It’s twisted.

No way would Dwayne Wade be able to snag Disney contracts with a gay son.

A certain segment of society is so desperate to see a transgender truly accepted by the public. That has not happened yet. There seems to be this thought that introducing transgenders to the public when they are younger will help them become popular with the public. So far, it doesn't seem to be working. I don't think there will ever be a trans Ellen or Anderson Cooper.

People without real day-to-day problems fall into stuff like that. When you are living paycheck to pay check, you don't have time for that shit.

That's why so many trannies live at mom and dad's house.

But that's the thing, R64. Dwayne never actually came to terms with his son being effeminate and likely gay. Instead, he reimagined his son as having a medical condition in which he was actually a girl born into the "wrong" body.

I agree with you r73. That’s why I was pointing out that Wade was not accepting of Zion being gay.

This is blatant social contagion. I can't wait when the 10 year mark hits and we can finally tell everyone I told you so as we marvel on suicides and bitter adults blaming their parents for forcing this shit on them.

I think it is an improvement. These women have now deep erotic voices.

I know this doc is made by right wing idiots, Ben Shapiro is the producer, but it is actually very funny and they interview a plethora of progressive people on this issue and they can't even define womanhood. It's very telling and it's even worse that right wingers are hijacking this issue while true progressives act like cult members to this insanity.

You can download the film for free off piratebay.

Seeing Chastity, now Chaz, Bono on Dancing with the Stars was my lightbulb moment with trans.

Lifelong medicalization and possibly cutting off healthy body parts shouldn't be required to be your authentic self. Be butch, be effeminate, be whatever you want, but fuck this emperor's new clothes shit.

r79 what does Emipor's new clothes mean in that context?

""I think wealthy, middle-to-upper class white people produce the majority of trans children."

"That's not true at all"

I think it is. I think the vast majority of young trans people are neurotic middle-class white kids, who are looking for a way to be somebody else.

R81, I agree that it's mostly kids of the upper middle class. There are videos of camps for trans kids, and most of the kids are white. The trans kids in the media are mostly white, rarely do you see a Black, Asian, or Hispanic trans kid. You could say it just reflects the demographics of the US/Canada, but I think it is a reflection of class. Some people can afford to have luxury beliefs, others can't.

R30 Shiloh Jolie-Pitt used to dress like Brad Pitt. I thought her dressing in boy's clothes was more a sign on her being a "daddy's girl" than transgender and said so at the time.

I’m like DL woke, but that thread title is like an offensive sign

[quote] The families have enough wealth to insulate the kids so they can live in a trans bubble.

I think it's also that these kids go to those alternative private schools with made-up curricula where any fad is encouraged as 'being unique'.

The fight is heating up:

Former NBA star Dwyane Wade blasts ex-wife over petition to halt trans daughter’s name change

R80, by "emperor's new clothes" I mean the "trans women are women" dogma. People should wear whatever they like (and is appropriate, so no to massive boob prosthetics in tight sweaters in shop class) and change their names if they like, but Chaz Bono is not a man, he/she's a trans man. Caitlyn Jenner isn't a woman, he/she's a cross-dressing man.

[quote] but Chaz Bono is not a man, he/she's a trans man. Caitlyn Jenner isn't a woman, he/she's a cross-dressing man.

r87 If Jenner isn't a woman but a cosplaying man (I agree), then Bono is not even a man, trans or not, but a cosplaying woman. Both have their birth genitals. Artificial hormones and tits off and on don't make them what they're totally not.

I think people who work in show business are more tolerant than average and open to different ways of living one's life. Just like how college professors are probably more likely to have openly gay kids than people who work at Alabama megachurches. Seems obvious to me.

OP, none of these kids are any of your fucking business. Leave them alone, if you find that difficult then just imagine for a moment that you are a decent human being and see if it takes hold.

The OP when she's at home...

That's right, r90, kids should be left alone, not told that their bodies are wrong and that they need drugs and surgery to "fix" them. Nor should they be told that they're not real boys or real girls just because they don't behave according to some weird, rigid gender stereotypes.

R89, what's tolerant or open-minded about stuffing a little boy with drugs and telling him he needs surgery to cut off his healthy body parts and construct a fake "vagina" that will cause him lifelong problems just because he behaves in an "effeminate" way? There's nothing tolerant about gay conversion therapy and the mutilation of children's genitals.

This is not your personal Trans-hate website you evil fucking cows.

How many threads have you polluted with your constant, obsessive hatred today?

Stop attacking other people's children to further your political aims and vent your putrid fucking spleens.

This is the Datalounge, not the We Hate Trans And Everyone Must Hate Them Too Lounge you insufferable cunts.

R81 R82 I think it is an IQ thing with white people. It is explained here in the video at 31:56.

The pronoun thing is so annoying. They means plural, more than one so how can it be accepted that one singular human refers to her or himself as a ‘THEY’? There’s only two genders. Sorry folks but that’s biology and reality. It’s also a slap in the face for a transgender person who wasn’t comfortable in the gender they were born with. They have two choices and they chose the other one. This new generation of attention seekers is tiresome and annoying. I’m fucking never referring to someone as a they. Sorry. Or non binary, cis etc… it’s Straight , Gay, Bi or Asexual. 4 sexualities. Nothing else. And you’re not a dog, unicorn, tree… these kids are so catered to that they decide to wake up and claim they’re anything they want ot they’ll “cancel” you for not accepting it. I hate this world. Although it’s primarily an American, British , Australian and Canadian issue.

Dwayne Wade’s ex is in a really tough position that a lot of divorced parents find themselves in. If she tries to stop it, which she is, she going to be the villain to the kid. It’s a no win situation for her because the father totally supports and seems to be encouraging it.

R98 I think much of it might have to do with his current wife. Gabrielle gets the social credit of having a trans kids which has value in Hollyweird but she doesn't have to actually sacrifice her own flesh-and-blood child to the trans cult.

Her son will thank her when he's an adult, r98, and hate his father for doing this monstrous thing to him.

Poor kid. His father is really fucking him over.

OP, we don't know. This is a Gay men's website. It's not our thing and it's none of our business.

As if we need a 'justification' to discuss anything R102.

But in this case it's very much our thing when gay kids are transed.

It's also our business as gay people when we have been forcibly turned into the "LGBTQIA2S++ community". This shit is being done in our name.

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