Joan Crawford's Daughter Christina Interviewed by Larry King (LIVE)

This interview is a gem for drunken viewing.

Christina: "I moved out when I was 18 years old and never went back."

Also Christina: "I was shocked that I was disinherited in her will."

R1 That could be from being abused as a child. The cold eyes are a natural defense.

I'm surprised by the comments given the how craze the comments are under "Mommie Dearest" clips

Joan was disturbed and never should have been trusted to raise a child, but on the other side of the coin, many adopted children are born to addicts and the mentally ill and are genetically bound to be complex to raise. It was a tragic, toxic combo.

Didn’t JC also disinherit her adopted son, as well?

Who did JC leave all her money to?

[quote] Terrifying Abuse by Mother, An Intensely Personal Hour:

I can relate! Mother tried touching my no-no zone last night after church!

[quote]r6 Who did JC leave all her money to?

Joan Crawford was the original Piece of Work.

She bequeathed money equally between 2 twin daughters (the only kids that could stand her) but left all personal effects to just ONE of the girls. This is where the real value of the estate was, and that twin held auctions, etc., coming out waaaaaaaay ahead.

It's humourous the people that project their relationships with their mothers onto her... many would readily do to their own children if their own children did the same to them.

But this is the nature of the CULT of alleged narcissist abuse survivors. Seriously, take a look at some of these groups. It's akin to the wave of false memory syndrome all over again but far more dangerous as it comes with an added subculture and much wider, easy to access community.

Of course, that's not to say there aren't actual survivors of abuse and yes, some even within these groups. But just compare to other peer based groups and counseling involving abuse in general vs how these groups operate and rather than recovering instead begin to find narcissists in every facet of their life, it becomes sword and shield to escape confrontation and personal responsibility.

Many of them consider themselves "empaths" now. So, trauma becomes a virtue because that grants you the powers of empathy, and if you're not an empath, then you're closer to a sociopath. There's little gray area. The 'cult'ure embraces persecution and it becomes competitive as we've seen simiarly in the sociopolitical arena from leftist campuses to right leaning media.

Why was JC so mean and cruel? What happened to her to make her that way?

JC was an abused child but didn’t consider herself so. When she had kids, she used the same harsh child-rearing techniques she’d been raised with and thought nothing of it. Additionally, her chaotic childhood led her to be compulsive about order, cleanliness and rules in her adult life and as a mother. All that, combined with her alcoholism and her work in a very stressful field, was the perfect storm that led to her being an abusive parent.

She required complete control, and the twins submitted while Christina and Christopher rebelled. It is no surprise that they have contrasting tales of their upbringings.

While I am sure some of Christina's account of life with her mother had truth to it, having read Mommie Dearest in the last couple of years, along with comments made by others who knew Joan (including the adopted twins) I am inclined to think some of the tales are embellished. There is an interview out there circa the early 60s, with Mike Wallace, where Christina comes across as very aloof, almost narcissistic. It's on YouTube {or was), and made me think she was jealous of her mother and resented being under any kind of parental control as a minor. Definitely recommend listening. It doesn't make me that sympathetic to Christina or believe everything she claims.

For reasons WELL known to you dear!!

After watching the interview with the daughter and Larry King, I believe the daughter, but I feel bad for Joan. Joan was seriously disturbed, going on weird tirades in the middle of the night, throwing clothes out of closets, going out in the dark to trim roses bushes. She sounds possessed, poor dear. Her mind must have been hell, her existence torture. I wonder what demons were having their way with her.

Also, in the interview, her daughter strongly suggests that Joan had her husband (the one who ran Pepsi) murdered or murdered him herself. The daughter said he was a wonderful man, in perfect health, and she never thought his death made sense. She also said Joan attacked her once for kissing him good night, accusing her of making a pass at him. Makes you wonder . . .

wow--she looks different here in this "Christian Brando, Christina Crawford, Bill Cable--Rare TV Interview"

[quote] I wonder what demons were having their way with her

100 proof vodka

Raw meat

[quote] Didn’t JC also disinherit her adopted son, as well?

The one she burned and made vomited as punishment.

[quote] Didn’t JC also disinherit her adopted son, as well?

The one she burned and made vomit as punishment.

OP, she had a relationship with her later on. She went to boarding school and no longer lived at home. Stop being an idiot.

Joan’s assistant and best friends all collaborated Christina’s accounts. This includes the wire hangers shit. Joan was a fucking nutcase.

Tony Curtis witnessed Joan backhand Christopher in the face at the dinner table because he was using his left hand to eat. He told her that her children were going to grow up hating her. She told him to keep his mouth shut.

Aside from Mr. Alfred Steele, JC brought a lot of "uncles" into the kids' lives, which isn't good.

[quote] While I am sure some of Christina's account of life with her mother had truth to it, having read Mommie Dearest in the last couple of years, along with comments made by others who knew Joan (including the adopted twins) I am inclined to think some of the tales are embellished.

Adult friends of Joan likely had no idea of what went on behind closed doors.

Children within the same household can have vastly different experiences of what their growing up years were like. Parents and siblings can dish out different treatment. One of my sisters in only about 18 months younger than me and, when we talk, I realize we had really different experiences growing up. My older siblings had different experiences, as well (parents stricter, less money).

[quote]R14 Why was JC so mean and cruel? What happened to her to make her that way?

She had a poverty stricken, abuse filled childhood, while competition and Hollywood brought out her (necessarily) selfish nature. Add vats of vodka and stir.

In OP’s post Christina looks like Jennifer Saunders

That lunatic Joan fan who runs that ridiculous fan site was interview for a show on Joan. Christina had just gotten done. He spoke to her and couldn’t believe how kind she was a down to earth. This is after he trashed her for years.

OP, is all of this new to you? Seems that way.

Cindy Jordan, the twin who didn't get her stuff, had a rough adult life. She was homeless for a time and died while waiting for a liver transplant.

Wow, I didn't realize JC treated even her twins differently, assets-wise. That's a bad mother. Cynthia (one of the twins) received $77,500, at most. JC's will, I'm posting here.

Cindy also became close to her birth parents' family in Tennessee in the years before she died.

[QUOTE] Joan’s assistant and best friends all collaborated Christina’s accounts.

Oh, dear.

There's a Crawford stan on YouTube who hates both Christina and Casey LaLonde, Cathy's son, who appointed himself the guardian of Joan's "brand" after Cathy died in early 2020.

On the next Feud:

Twins Dearest: Cathy vs. Cindy

[quote]OP, she had a relationship with her later on. She went to boarding school and no longer lived at home. Stop being an idiot.

This part of the story I don't get - where did she go in the holidays?

[quote]This interview is a gem for drunken viewing.

I don't understand why? A woman talking about her extremely abusive mother and very sad childhood - gee let's get smashed and roll the old footage.

R28, according to Liz Smith Hollywood and much of the press knew of Crawford’s abuse of her children, and drinking- while it was happening. Smith was a wealth of truth about stars after they passed away, never in their lifetimes.

Cristina comes off as together, articulate and all together believable.

Years ago, 1970s, the partner of a friend of mine 15 years or so older than me, was a “friend” of Joan’s. He owned the Pines pantry on Fire Island. He would play cards with her when she was still in her Park Ave apt. Even then I was told about the plastic on all the furniture, drank heavily, and did not suffer fools . Damaged people who become alcoholics can turn monstrous when drunk. I think she was very much that type of alcoholic.

[quote]R39 This part of the story I don't get - where did she go in the holidays?

When the Crawford Cunt Trash built her Pepsi Penthouse in NYC with Al Steele, she provided no bedrooms for any of their combined 6 kids - or a single guest bedroom at all.

The teeny twins were promptly sent off to boarding school, then put up in nearby hotels when it wasn’t in session.

Can you imagine??

Children can be so ungrateful.

Sometimes a strong hand is a must when raising a child.

That fat queen Casey LaLonde shows up everywhere....he has to be making a buck, too.

Were all the children she adopted blondes with blue eyes? Why?

[quote]Were all the children she adopted blondes with blue eyes? Why?

Yes, Cindy & Cathy had such fair blond hair. Nearly translucent!

She adopted a fifth child (a boy). His DOB was published and his birth mother figured out that was her son and wanted him back.

Why didn't she like wire hangers? I find them useful.

Mommie, thank you for disinheriting me. As a result, I made millions.

In every interview I've seen and read, Christina comes off as articulate, intelligent, and empathetic. Her book forced a national dialogue about alcoholic parents and child abuse, which coincided with revelations about Catholic priests' sexual abuse of children. There were numerous industry people who collaborated with her accounts of Joan's bad treatment of her oldest children. Sadly, no one stepped up to defend Joan Crawford's two oldest adopted children. Such issues were not discussed back then. Despite the gloriously campy movie featuring the cuntress Faye, the book shined a light on a subject that had been taboo for too long.

I know it's a controversial stance, but Christina likely deserved to be beaten and mentally abused for her admitted "naughtiness," if the beatings and other abuse actually took place. And Joan more than earned the right to be a total bitch, to immediate family or, really, to anyone. She was the Queen of Hollywood!

R26 and R51: the word is CORROBORATE, not COLLABORATE.

Regarding Cindy and Cathy, I thought “twins” was something Joan made up? I have not read MD in 40 years but I thought they were just sisters/Irish twins but Joan liked the concept of twins so she said they were and dressed them accordingly.

R52 is basically pro-child abuse. "That kid deserved to be beaten!"

DL is full of truly damaged people.

[quote]NOW SCRUB SCURB

How sad, when one attempts humor and all you deserve is an "Oh, dear."

[quote]NOW SCRUB SCURB

That exact moment the 100 proof Smirnoff kicks in.

Christina spread the rumor that the twins weren't twins, and they sued her and won for defamation.

Joan lied as well. They both lied; there was a thread a couple of years ago where someone linked to that infamous Redbook article in 1960 and both Joan and Christina told stories about why she left Chadwick, neither of which seems to be true. However, Christina would tell a second version of the story to Mike Wallace later on, then a third version in Mommie Dearest. Who knows what the truth was.

It's almost certain that Joan was abusive, but you cannot dismiss the fact that Christina lies sometimes and that calls into question everything else she says.

[quote] NOW SCRUB SCURB

DON’T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!

R61, Joan is on record lying about all kinds of things - starting with her birth year - so I don’t think you can single out Christina for lying. Joan was a notorious fabulist (and yes, fabulous) and not a thing she ever said could be taken at face value.

Why was Joan such a fabulist? Was this related to her abuse of the children or the abuse she suffered in her childhood?

How much of how Christina turned out was influenced by Joan's personality flaws and shortcomings? A lot, I'd say. I think it's likely that Christina's account is largely true (or at least rooted in fact), and that she's also a deeply flawed and sometimes cruel person herself. It's called the cycle of abuse. What Joan did to Christina was wrong but Christina also isn't a saint herself. Both can be true.

R64 Hurt people hurt people

Good points R65. In the interview, Christina suggests that the abuse was even worse for her brother, who died a rather early death as an adult, I believe. She seemed to suggest it was harder to be a young male abused by a female than to be a young female abused by a female. I find that fascinating, to consider that being abused by the opposite sex is more harmful. I wonder if this has been studied--gender as part of the cycle.

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